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 ca·hoots/kəˈho͞ots/ Noun: Colluding or conspiring together secretly. HB 247 http://billstatus.ls.sta.../0200-0299/HB0247IN.pdf Deer; extend season for hunting with guns and without dogs until February 15. Miles Beginning at line 15... "the commission may allow hunting statewide or in specific areas with any legal weapon which it may designate without dogs after the end of the last season for hunting deer with guns and with dogs, but the season with legal designated weapons and without dogs shall not extend beyond February 15..." HB1131 http://billstatus.ls.sta.../1100-1199/HB1131IN.pdf Deer hunting; authorize hunter to use weapon of choice on certain private lands during primitive weapon season on deer. McGee Beginning at line 17... "the commission may allow hunting statewide or in specific areas with any legal weapon which it may designate without dogs after the end of the last season for hunting deer with guns and with dogs, but the season with legal designated weapons and without dogs shall not extend beyond February 15..." HB1179 http://billstatus.ls.sta.../1100-1199/HB1179IN.pdf Deer; allow hunting of over bait during any open season on deer. Eaton Beginning at line 17, yet again,... "the commission may allow hunting statewide or in specific areas with any legal weapon which it may designate without dogs after the end of the last season for hunting deer with guns and with dogs, but the season with legal designated weapons and without dogs shall not extend beyond February 15..."
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I don't understand why they can't just leave it like it is 
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Pathetic. Hope they all die miserably. (the bills, not the proposers.... Just hope they lose their seat.)
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huntersmky wrote:I don't understand why they can't just leave it like it is ... homework for tonight read 12 Ways to Think “Big Picture” 
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"The commission, by rule or regulation, shall authorize the hunting of deer over bait on any public lands or wildlife management areas under the enforcement jurisdiction of the department during any open season on deer, whether the bait is scattered on the ground, in above ground covered feeders or stationary spin cast feeders."
WOW. It will be legal to set up feeders on WMA's to hunt. What an awesome idea. Is everybody in Jackson this stupid or just the elected ones.
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MATT K wrote:"The commission, by rule or regulation, shall authorize the hunting of deer over bait on any public lands or wildlife management areas under the enforcement jurisdiction of the department during any open season on deer, whether the bait is scattered on the ground, in above ground covered feeders or stationary spin cast feeders."
WOW. It will be legal to set up feeders on WMA's to hunt. What an awesome idea. Is everybody in Jackson this stupid or just the elected ones. Politics my friend. Split and conquer. Dogs vs still hunter Private landowners rights vs public and last but not least BAITING 
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I'm out of state and on my phone so I can't really study the bills.
That said, HB1131 has some language that I would like others to look at. It begins "During *any* open season on deer"...then after saying "any" it seems to try to attempt to narrow the applicability of the codes that deal with just the PW season. Usually the words *any open season" means just that. Could this be applicable to archery seasons? Time for a Bullnettler lawyer!
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MATT K wrote:"The commission, by rule or regulation, shall authorize the hunting of deer over bait on any public lands or wildlife management areas under the enforcement jurisdiction of the department during any open season on deer, whether the bait is scattered on the ground, in above ground covered feeders or stationary spin cast feeders."
WOW. It will be legal to set up feeders on WMA's to hunt. What an awesome idea. Is everybody in Jackson this stupid or just the elected ones. Can you imagine the fighting that would happen when someone hunted too close to another guys corn feeder on a WMA? "This is my area. Cant you see my 1000 pound feeder right there?"  Not a good situation at all.
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Stringwacker wrote:I'm out of state and on my phone so I can't really study the bills.
That said, HB1131 has some language that I would like others to look at. It begins "During *any* open season on deer"...then after saying "any" it seems to try to attempt to narrow the applicability of the codes that deal with just the PW season. Usually the words *any open season" means just that. Could this be applicable to archery seasons? Time for a Bullnettler lawyer! String, it is worded kind of hinkey, but the reference back to section 1(c) and 1(e) narrows it down, "..any open season on deer as prescribed in subsection 1(a) and (e) of this section..." as you know from experience that is how they enumerate things in "legislat-ease". Subsection 1(a) is the December 2-15 PW season and subsection 1(e) is the PW season from the end of regular gun season in Mid January till the end of the extended season whether it is 1-31 or 2-15. By wording it that way they don't allow weapon of choice in the "PW does only season" in November prior to the traditional opening the Sat before Thanksgiving. Clear as mud!!
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huntersmky wrote:I don't understand why they can't just leave it like it is Job security. They are paid good money to screw things...uh I mean fix things that aren't broken.
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bucmeister wrote:String, it is worded kind of hinkey, but the reference back to section 1(c) and 1(e) narrows it down, "..any open season on deer as prescribed in subsection 1(a) and (e) of this section..." as you know from experience that is how they enumerate things in "legislat-ease". Subsection 1(a) is the December 2-15 PW season and subsection 1(e) is the PW season from the end of regular gun season in Mid January till the end of the extended season whether it is 1-31 or 2-15. By wording it that way they don't allow weapon of choice in the "PW does only season" in November prior to the traditional opening the Sat before Thanksgiving. Clear as mud!! Thanks for looking at it. There is no question that the intent is for it to apply to just the PW season. That said, I will probably keep looking at it to see if any other meaning could apply. I don't like how its worded. I've seen other laws reinvent themselves when people desired them to have different meanings.
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Oh man....I can't imagine the fights that would break out on public land once someone hunts someone else's bait pile....
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MATT K wrote:"The commission, by rule or regulation, shall authorize the hunting of deer over bait on any public lands or wildlife management areas under the enforcement jurisdiction of the department during any open season on deer, whether the bait is scattered on the ground, in above ground covered feeders or stationary spin cast feeders."
WOW. It will be legal to set up feeders on WMA's to hunt. What an awesome idea. Is everybody in Jackson this stupid or just the elected ones. Obviously you haven't been to Jackson lately, MOST of the smart ones have left Jackson, the others are doing their best to leave ASAP!
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Personally, I'm for one of two things as far as the primitive weapon season goes, and I don't care which happens:
1) Do away with it. Allow rifles during all current PW seasons.
2) Go back to muzzleloader, open sights only. Hell, make it flint-lock only if you want. This 35 whelen with a 4x12-50 crap is DUMB DUMB DUMB.
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Smoke68 wrote:Personally, I'm for one of two things as far as the primitive weapon season goes, and I don't care which happens:
1) Do away with it. Allow rifles during all current PW seasons.
2) Go back to muzzleloader, open sights only. Hell, make it flint-lock only if you want. This 35 whelen with a 4x12-50 crap is DUMB DUMB DUMB. +100. Well said. I just hope they leave what little bit of archery only season we have left alone!
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deerhunt1988 wrote:Oh man....I can't imagine the fights that would break out on public land once someone hunts someone else's bait pile.... Ain't that the truth
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huntersmky wrote:I don't understand why they can't just leave it like it is I wish they would leave it alone.
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Next deadline is Tuesday March 6th:
""Deadline for COMMITTEES TO REPORT general bills and constitutional amendments originating in OWN House.*+""
This will be the first indication as to which bills will DIE in committee or cling to life for the next step which will be March 15th for floor action in originating house.
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Who's on First?, What's on second?, and a lot of law makers are apparently not even at the right ballpark.
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