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I recently bought a Masterbuilt 40 inch digital electric smoker.It is still in the box but I plan on breaking it out soon.It has a cyclinder that you put wood chips in and insert into the side.This way you can add more chips if needed.It also has a glass door so you can see in without opening it.It also has a temperature control,with a probe.
I have never smoked anything in my life.I need some advise about smoking trout.What temperature and how long for 16 to 24 inch trout.Also do you season them some sort of way , sprinkle with salt & pepper ect. ,any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks MM
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I forgot to add that I scaled and gutted the trout,not fillets.I know you can smoke mullet so I want to try trout.Thanks'''
Use a light fruit wood. Do not use Mesquite, etc. they are to strong and over power fish. My favorite is Apple. With Cherry or Pecan being 2nd.

I use a little Cajun season, but then again I believe I sprinkle a little Cajun on my PB&J's!

I use a hardwood smoker and use Oak lump charcoal, so I get a lot of extra flavor from that but a lot more work.

There are 2 methods of smoking fish Hot Smoke at 225 or Cold Smoke (common for Salmon (Lox) ) I don't Cold smoke so can't help with that.

Timing is tough to say, lots of factors: how many pieces, how well your smoker holds, heat, etc. But likely 20-30 minutes. You are going for the same level of flaky that you normal get. But now here's the rub, the key to good smoking is NEVER NEVER open the smoker.

So welcome to the world of smoker accessories, and the first one you need is a wireless temp guage. With 2 probes, one for the smoker and one for the meat. I use this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ANCXJR6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

As for a recipe, I have done trout but its not my favorite way to have trout. Most of what I smoke is Tuna.

A good way to smoke fish is to use a Brine. Google and you will find tons of recipes. Salt and Sugar are the two main ingredients to most brines, but from there you can experiment with anything you like. Apple Juice / Cider is a another good one. My tuna brine uses white wine.

For Salmon I do a dry brine that creates a glaze. I don't eat Salmon but Diane and the boys do and love it.

When you are ready to try to hands at Ribs etc. let me know and I will give you some hints on those as well. All it will cost you is the GPS numbers to a couple of those Honey Holes of yours [sneaky]

I am smoking 4 racks of ribs, some Tuna and Shark tomorrow. Never done Shark but going to experiment with some of the Blacktip the granddaughter caught while she was here. Planning to charbroil some oysters while smoking as a cooks treat.
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What PH said, except....

There are two ways to smoke fish. One is to just smoke it 'till it's cooked and serve it. Like PH said, probably 20-30 min at 225--longer for thicker cuts.

The other (which is what I do) is smoke it until it's dried (-ish), then serve as an appetizer on crackers or make it into an awesome dip. This will take 3-4 hrs, or 5-6 for a salmon-size fillet.

I'd also highly recommend brining it first, but take it easy on a thin cut. One hour of brine is enough. Then let it dry for an hour or two to form a pellicle.

Have fun!
There is some assembly required so don't open the box the afternoon you plan to use the smoker. [confused]
Assuming you mean Speckled Trout, rather than freshwater trout. I'm not sure if Specks are ideal for smoking since they have such light meat. I'm sure they'll be ok, but smoking fish is more traditional with oily fish. I've tried it with bass and wasn't crazy about it. Mackerel species are great when it comes to the coast. Also, scaling is unnecessary. Best is a simple filet w/ skin on, kiting or butterfly the fish is good if you want more of a 'whole fish' deal.

Smoking takes practice unless you get someone to show you step by step. YouTube as much as you can to learn the different ways to do it.
The first and maybe most important is the brine. Brine and curing before smoking is critical. My basic brine is 4 cups water with 1/4 cup dark brown sugar, and 1/4 cup kosher salt dissolved in it (adjust depending on how much meat or fish you are using). I score the meat and put the fish in a deep glass dish and pour the brine over it so it's completely submerged and put a lid on it. Put in fridge for about 6 hours. I prefer longer on thick filets (doesn't matter much if you leave longer, but up to 12 or overnight is normal for me). Take out, allow to drain and drip off as much as possible. Then put the fish skin down on tin foil or drying rack in fridge for at least 12 hours until the meat is dry and tacky feeling (this is all for more oily fish like salmon). This allows the smoke to stick. My normal way is to put in brine the day before after dinner. Brine over night. In the morning, put in fridge to dry and cure. Come home and smoke it.
When I "smoke" salmon for a normal dinner, I do it fairly hot. You can do this on the grill too with a wood chip box (or pie plate with chips and covered with tin foil) and the fish on the opposite side from the heat. I get the chips smoking, and cook at about 275-300 for 15-30 mins depending on thickness and quantity. Salmon and oily fish are easy to tell when they're done with hot smoking, as the fat comes to the top when done.
For more traditional smoking, you can smoke at 185 - 225 at anywhere from 60 mins to 3 hours depending on size of fish and temps. For a few Spanish mak sized fish, 60 mins at 200 would be plenty. King fish or whole medium-large salmon filet may take 3 hours. This type of smoking also preserves the fish quite well. Allowing it to be stored in a fridge easily for a week.

As mentioned, cold smoking is a completely different ball game. This is for preservation and 'cold cut' style meat, fish, and even cheese. No heat for 24hours+. I've wanted to try it, but it's very hard to do unless you have the right set up. Keeping the smoke going is the hardest part.

Here's a cool link to a great outdoor cooking blog where he smoked Lake Trout:

http://honest-food.net/2014/07/11/smoked-lake-trout-recipe/
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mullet is one of the better fish in our area to smoke.

I've never personally done it but have eaten a ton of my uncle's. I know more recently he just uses a brinkman electric smoker (actually two stacked on top of each other with the top one being a brinkman non-electric smoker. The legs of the non-electric fit perfectly inside the the electric one forming a "double" height).

He just guts the fish, butterflies open and washes, then hangs them on rods that run all the way through the smoker walls (he drilled holes through the sides for the rods to slide through). ******* engineering at it's finest!!! Unsure of his brine or other prep methods but I will try to find out.

MS Man, I think there is plenty of info here for you to get started and I know I didn't offer any help! Just wanted to share that you don't need anything fancy to get great smoked fish.
I forgot to add that I scaled and gutted the trout,not fillets.I know you can smoke mullet so I want to try trout.Thanks'''
also, would MS Man want the meat exposed in some way? sounds like the fish is still whole, with only a slit through the belly to remove the guts... will the smoke penetrate enough through the skin? Or should the fish be "butterflied" in some way to better expose to the smoke? also a 24" spec is pretty thick... might take a lot longer to cook through?

thanks for the responses, I'm learning too!!!
also, would MS Man want the meat exposed in some way? sounds like the fish is still whole, with only a slit through the belly to remove the guts... will the smoke penetrate enough through the skin? Or should the fish be "butterflied" in some way to better expose to the smoke? also a 24" spec is pretty thick... might take a lot longer to cook through?

thanks for the responses, I'm learning too!!!
If you want it close to whole, butterflied is the minimum. It may penetrate on a mullet, but anything larger is unlikely. You want as much surface area of meat exposed as possible.
http://forums.bullnettlenews.com/22-mississippi-fishing-saltwater-forum/50586-smoked-trout-dip.html

I go a little longer than most, but that was with my old smoker that didnt hold heat very well. Need to get a mess of whites and try it out on my new smoker. [cool]

The only step i didn't include in my previous post was the brine. Salt, Sugar, lemon zest. I do my brine in a large ziplock bag.
I recently bought a Masterbuilt 40 inch digital electric smoker.It is still in the box but I plan on breaking it out soon.It has a cyclinder that you put wood chips in and insert into the side.This way you can add more chips if needed.It also has a glass door so you can see in without opening it.It also has a temperature control,with a probe.
I have never smoked anything in my life.I need some advise about smoking trout.What temperature and how long for 16 to 24 inch trout.Also do you season them some sort of way , sprinkle with salt & pepper ect. ,any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks MM
MM, here's a link
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75712330/Smoked.zip

I recently cut the gills from a half-dozen trout, soaked them overnight in beer, brown sugar, and heavy salt. Next day I hung them from a rack on aluminum hooks and smoked them @ 220F for about 4 hrs.

My wife made fish dip with the meat stripped from the bones. I didn't get even a taste; my kids and grandkids scarfed it all.

I like pecan split or cut to about 1/2 inch thick, soaked overnight, and put about 3 pieces 2" X 4" on the electrical heat element. FIsh are best with only two applications of smoke, but jerky, pork, andouille or tasso take about 3 passes.

Whole hickory nuts or green pecans are good as well, but pile on the smoking materials too densly and the whole shooting match goes up in flames. I've seen the thermometer shoot to 500 degrees when making a batch of jerky, but I rescues the jerky in time.

Enjoy your new smoker. Nothing in the world as good as a venison haunch marinated then smoked for nine hours. Brisket is almost, but not quite, as good.
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There is some assembly required so don't open the box the afternoon you plan to use the smoker. [confused]
This...and i played with cheap chicken cuts to get the smoke right before i tried the good stuff...aint done no fish yet but plan on it soon(soon as i can catch some[blush])
I have only smoked fillets but my brother does whole trout and they are some kind of good. He scales, guts, and cuts the heads off. The skin gets leathery but it peals right off.
Forgot to mention (and might not be as important but still important with Electric) is to keep moisture in the smoker. You don't want a completely dry heat (unless you want fish jerky!). You will see lots of mention of Apple Juice etc. in a pan to add moisture, but most experts (and me) agree that good old fashion water does just as well.

The Big guys with their smoke trailers don't have a liquid tray, but its because they have enough meat in the smoker that it provides its own moisture.

I do use apple juice (well something similar but trade secret) with my ribs but not in my moisture pan. Again that secret will cost you some GPS numbers [rofl]
Thanks for all the replies and links.I have been out of town since I posted about the smoker.One day this coming week I'm going to assemble it and give it a try.I'll probably start with just 2 trout an experiment until I get it right.Thanks for all the info, I didn't know about the brine,and I know now thats important.I knew I could count on you guys for the help.I'll let you know when I get it right.[smile] MM
Here's another great recipe/technique by Hank Shaw on smoking salmon. Same principle goes with any other fish. Small fish like spanish macks and specks won't take nearly the amount of time as he details though.

http://honest-food.net/2012/08/12/how-to-smoke-salmon-recipe/
Thanks for all the replies and links.I have been out of town since I posted about the smoker.One day this coming week I'm going to assemble it and give it a try.I'll probably start with just 2 trout an experiment until I get it right.Thanks for all the info, I didn't know about the brine,and I know now thats important.I knew I could count on you guys for the help.I'll let you know when I get it right.[smile] MM
MM, you will think you really got it right until you smoke a whole deer ham for nine-ten hours after keeping it in the refridge for about five - six days. You can sit there talking about cute little Bambi and those big, floppy ears, and the girls will keep passing their plates for another slice.

Gather a sack of hickory nuts if you get a chance. They put out great smoke and don't flame up, unless you stack 'em too thick like I always seem to do.

bonne chance,
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