Kahle hooks for croaker

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Luv2FishMike

Discussion Starter · Jul 1, 2014

When using kahle hooks with live croaker when fishing for Specks what is the best technique for hooking the specks? Do you let them run with it for a bit and then cross their eyes, cross their eyes immediately, or is it more like a circle hook where they hook themselves?

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petehalsted

· #2 · Jul 1, 2014

I never try to cross the eye's of a speck. Their mouth rips up to easy. I generally just lift up and start reeling, very little to any hook set.

Downside is I loose the ocassional Redfish when I hit one because they do require a hookset to get the hook into that tough mouth of thiers.

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DawgFish

· #3 · Jul 1, 2014

I let them take it before lightly setting the hook. They will often attempt to kill the croaker and then eat it.

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wild bill

· #4 · Jul 1, 2014

DawgFish said:
I let them take it before lightly setting the hook. They will often attempt to kill the croaker and then eat it.

My thoughts exactly. I believe the spec often stuns its prey then returns to position the croaker head-first to swallow. I'm guilty of setting the hook to soon and losing a good fish espically when I haven't been in the water in a while. I think it's best to let it swim off and then set the hook. Like Pete said it dosen't take much espically with the Kahle design. I use a 3/0.

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Fisher-ManGuide

· #5 · Jul 2, 2014

While waiting for the bite keep the rod pointed 45-90 degrees away from the bait. Most of the time when the trout hits it will thump it to shok it first then come back for the kill. When I feel the initial thump (much stronger than the feel of the croaker kicking) I point the rod straight at the bait and watch the slack. When the fish takes the slack out I use a solid but not hard hook set. Gotta give em time to get the hook in their mouth.

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Capt. Chief

· #6 · Jul 2, 2014

I use a 1/0. To me, it makes a more natural presentation with less weight and less flash, not to mention, less for the Speck to feel as he engulfs the croaker.
I rig it on a carolina rig typically. I like to give a good bit of line between the weight and the hook, usually in the neighborhood of 30ins.
I use the Eagle Claw Lazer Sharps. It is economically priced, and I have NEVER had one straighten from a Mule Trout or Bull Red.....ever.
I prefer to have the rod in a rod holder. This keeps my clients (or me) from setting the hook too early.
Some Trout will whack it and come back around. Some will just inhale and keep going. When they just hit-and-run, my way of timing it is to reel up any slack that may be in the line as quickly as possible, and then lean toward the fish. I think I look a little funny doing it. I point the rod at the fish and leeeeannnn toward it until I am almost off-balance, and the just a gentle sweep of the rod and the fight is on.
This is what works for me, and how I teach my clients......my two cents.

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DawgFish

· #7 · Jul 2, 2014

shooterchief said:
I think I look a little funny doing it.

I imagine we all do sometimes, with the things we do for fish. [laugh]

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wild bill

· #8 · Jul 2, 2014

DawgFish said:
I imagine we all do sometimes, with the things we do for fish. [laugh]

I usually wind-up head first in the water at least once a year. I've already got my quota in for 2014. I was with Yakfishing in January and it was 24 degrees that crip morning when we launched our Yaks for Deer Island. But I was cool, really cool...

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Capt. Chief

· #9 · Jul 3, 2014

wild bill said:
I usually wind-up head first in the water at least once a year. I've already got my quota in for 2014. I was with Yakfishing in January and it was 24 degrees that crip morning when we launched our Yaks for Deer Island. But I was cool, really cool...

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