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My father recently bought a Winchester Model 70 "Sporter" 300 WSM for my son. I've hunted all my life with a .270, so I don't know much about this weapon. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks
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Think of WSMs as simply short/fat cased versions of the longer cartridge. Supposedly, they are able to be a tad more efficient in powder burn with the fatter case. The big advantage is that the rifles use a short action. The downside is that a fat cartridge just feels kind of strange.

The .300WSM is a sure enough thumper. It will reach out and touch Bambi from a long way with less drop than your .270. Of course that power has a price - higher priced ammo with less availability and more recoil.
Think of WSMs as simply short/fat cased versions of the longer cartridge. Supposedly, they are able to be a tad more efficient in powder burn with the fatter case. The big advantage is that the rifles use a short action. The downside is that a fat cartridge just feels kind of strange.

The .300WSM is a sure enough thumper. It will reach out and touch Bambi from a long way with less drop than your .270. Of course that power has a price - higher priced ammo with less availability and more recoil.
Thanks so much! Is there a good web site where I might learn the best way to sight the gun? We just hunt at our farm and the farthest shot we take is a litle over 200 yds. Since I was a kid, I always sighted my .270 at 1" high at 100 yds. For the past 30 years that has proved okay for me. When you said the .300 would have less drop than a .270, I am wondering whether I should reduce that to 1/2" at 100 yds for the .300WSM?

Your response above is why I love this site. It is always very informative!

Thanks.
NOOOO. Don't reduce it to 1/2" . To do so would defeat the purpose of a flat shooting caliber (i.e. shooting a long way without having to worry about holdover).

Now, let me show you why going down is the wrong answer. It is called "Maximum point blank range". Let's assume a deer's vital area is 5 inches (it is really bigger but let's keep it conservative). Divide that in half and get 2.5". Let's get extra conservative and reduce the value to 2". That is the distance from line of sight that I want to keep that bullet in. I.E., if I hold my crosshairs on a target I want my bullet to stay within 2" of that point throughout the entire travel.

If I sight in that 130gr .270 fusion so that it is 1.9" high at 100 it will be 2" high at its maximum point of arch at 130 yds, dead on at about 200, and 2" low at just over 255 yards.

If I sight in that .300WSM 150gr fusion so that it is 1.8" high at 100 it will be 2" high at its maximum point of arch at 139 yds, dead on at 225 and 2" low at about 275 yds.

Therefore, the .300WSM gives a 20 yard greater MPBR (Maximum Point Blank Range) using a 2" +- than a .270.

Ok, what does all this math mean for practical purposes? It means that you can put the crosshairs on Bambi's chest center and anywhere from the tip of my muzzle all the way out to MPBR and know that the bullet will never travel more than 2" above or 2" below where the crosshairs are. The flatter shooting a rifle is, the greater MPBR you can get. You can do this math at the range with any rifle and significantly reduce the amount of mental calculation you have to do in the field.

Here is the ballistics calculator I used: http://www.federalpremium.com/ballistics_calculator/
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......the Win 70 that you speak of is a very fine rifle. Chambered in 300 WSM, .270 Win or similar cartridges, it will not matter in the field for use on deer. When sighted in 2" high at 100 yards, you'll have a fine rifle for deer sized game or larger. Great rifle.
......the Win 70 that you speak of is a very fine rifle. Chambered in 300 WSM, .270 Win or similar cartridges, it will not matter in the field for use on deer. When sighted in 2" high at 100 yards, you'll have a fine rifle for deer sized game or larger. Great rifle.
Yes it is. My dad has a pre-64 model 70 in a .270 and I use a newer model 7mm Mag and both have knocked down dozens of deer over the years.
curious , How old is your son ?
My son will turn 12 this November
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