Tim Mullins makes one of the best bows out there. I have shot his longbows and they are nice, although I do not own one. His recurves are some of the be looking bows to me. You can go to tradgang.com and ask, I'm sure many people there can give you a answer. He is usually at the howard hill shoot in Alabama in June, and he is a real nice guy. He will be at the spring fling shoot at tannehill state park in Alabama next weekend.